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PA Lottery May Become Privately Managed

Terms for a potential PA Lottery private management agreement are in the works, according to an e-mail from the governor's office

 

Editor's note: To read the terms of agreement and a document including a list of frequently asked questions about the agreement, click on the attached PDF files.

The Pennsylvania Department of Revenue will announce later today the terms for a potential private management agreement for the Pennsylvania Lottery -- a deal that reportedly would call for a $150 million upfront payment “to be provided by a private manager," according to an email sent by Gov. Tom Corbett’s office.

Canon-McMillan Patch has obtained a copy of the email in which Andrew J. Ritter Jr., the governor’s executive deputy secretary, said the commonwealth would retain ownership and control of the lottery. The commonwealth would continue to handle specific business responsibilities, while other responsibilities are to be transitioned to a private manager, according to the email.

The email does not spell out the specifics of that proposed division of responsibilities. The private manager would be selected through a bidding process, according to the email.

The email also indicates that the agreement would call for be a 20-year base contract, although performance-based extensions could increase its term to 30 years.

There would also be annual profit commitments for two decades to grow funding for lottery-related programs benefiting older Pennsylvanians, the email indicated.

A call to Department of Revenue's communications department was not immediately returned Friday afternoon.

Related Topics: Pa Department of State, Pa Lottery, and Pa Lottery
What do you think of this proposal? Should the commonwealth share some management aspects of the Pennsylvania Lottery with a private firm? Tell us in the comments.

Otis T

2:27 pm on Friday, November 9, 2012

This was designed to help seniors, not private contractors. There certainly should be enough money from the lottery to keep it in the hands of the state. Why does the gov't want to give everything away to private investors, who will take profits away from seniors????

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RosiesDad

3:01 pm on Friday, November 9, 2012

Why? For the same reason government (usually under Republican control) farms anything out to a private contractor--so the private firm can take money that would otherwise benefit "The People."

I would bet dollars to donuts that the private firm is a campaign contributor to the governor or to the GOP. Or both.

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Barbara Scherer

4:25 pm on Friday, November 9, 2012

This is just the beginning folks. Just wait until the first of the year when your dear president will will start socking it to the middle class (again). Anyone who thinks only those over $200,000/$250,000 income will be affected; guess again. When the Federal Government cuts money that states need, guess who the states will come after??? US!

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Steven Long

6:23 pm on Friday, November 9, 2012

Jeff - Uhhhh ... the government is not able to operate ANYTHING efficiently ... or at a profit. Look at the Post Office, Social Security, etc. On the other hand, if operated by a private entity, additional taxes are paid to the Commonwealth, and fewer commonwealth assets are required, while the commonwealth retains revenue. In addition, if there are operational issues, the commonwealth can REPLACE the vendor ... whereas, the the commonwealth cannot replace itself (UNLESS they hire a vendor).

On the other hand, part of me wants to know HOW the Commonwealth can mandate "annual profit commitments" ... assuming the commonwealth still maintains control (ie: marketing, prizes, etc).

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Nick

3:53 pm on Wednesday, November 14, 2012

Dear Barbara Sherer,

Your candidate lost the election. You can stop the imbecilic rhetoric. I didn't convince anyone. This is a story about the PA Lottery, and yet you are so consumed with hate you still had to take a shot at YOUR president.

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Stephen Eickhoff

3:28 pm on Thursday, November 15, 2012

As usual, the left tells all dissenters to shut up. Debate is not tolerated.

Anonymous

3:43 pm on Friday, November 9, 2012

THE RICH ARE GETTING RICHER AND THE POOR ARE GETTING POORER!
TIRED OF READING SAD NEWS!

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Steven Long

6:24 pm on Friday, November 9, 2012

This makes no sense. How / why is this sad? Are you spending too much money on lotteries? Are you AGAINST the commonwealth profiting from a venture? Oy!

Bill Flick

4:18 pm on Friday, November 9, 2012

Everything should be privatized, starting with the LCB!

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Steven Long

6:25 pm on Friday, November 9, 2012

Well, not everything ... much of the safety and security are two instances (as an example). Keep citizens SAFE!

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Joe Olson

6:59 pm on Friday, November 9, 2012

Yes I agree Bill, the state should not be involved with the sale of alcohol just the enforcement of underage consumption.

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Stephen Eickhoff

3:29 pm on Thursday, November 15, 2012

I am definitely disappointed that privatization of the lottery was apparently more important to the administration than privatization of the LCB.

John

4:33 pm on Friday, November 9, 2012

Some one is getting rich ,whats wrong with the present set up? Its just another way to steal from the seniors and use the money to plug the budget gap,but lets not tax the gas drillers .

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Steven Long

6:27 pm on Friday, November 9, 2012

John - perhaps you did not, or cannot read. The article was specific about $150,000,000 upfront payment TO the commonwealth. The commonwealth is not taking money away from anyone ... rather ... increasing revenue. MATH ... it's a basic principle!

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Stephen Eickhoff

3:30 pm on Thursday, November 15, 2012

Steal from seniors? Only if they're buying lottery tickets.

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Steven Long

6:28 pm on Friday, November 9, 2012

You want the commonwealth to sue itself for being profitable? REALLY? This would be her 25th case ever prosecuted ... I fear the commonwealth would LOSE to itself!

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Ed Dee

6:32 pm on Friday, November 9, 2012

That will make Kathleen's 25th case ..woohoo!

Barbara Tino

4:44 pm on Friday, November 9, 2012

Why? What are the benefits of private management vs state? Two decades from now there will potentially be a loss of social security and medicare to the seniors so now we take away the lottery benefits? Is there anything left to take?

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optimist

4:54 pm on Friday, November 9, 2012

This allows the GOP to pay back wealthy business campaign donations. Also, people get to brag about smaller gov. In a few years when local property taxes go up they will argue it has no relation.

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Charlie D.

5:17 pm on Friday, November 9, 2012

Barbara....you made the most important point, yet you don't realize it! Look at what a wonderful job the government did with Social Security and Medicare....horrible. Both would have been better off in private hands. Other than military, can you tell me what government service is provided more efficiently by the government than by private enterprise? I'll bet the private manager of the Lottery will cost the state less than the current government management!

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Steven Long

6:31 pm on Friday, November 9, 2012

Barbara - The article was specific about $150,000,000 upfront payment TO the commonwealth. The commonwealth is not taking money away from anyone. As a side note ... the lottery IS NOT SOCIAL SECURITY OR MEDICARE ... those are FEDERAL ... the lottery is STATE. That aside, the lottery does not provide care or services ... only proceeds! Please get your facts straight, before you start trying to scare people with mis-information.

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Gary

9:59 pm on Friday, November 9, 2012

I don't know the financials of the lottery, but just like in most cases of private vs. government, the costs will be lower. And by no means should the "proceeds" the state received in the first place be any lower. If anything the state should profit from eliminating an agency. The lottery, in most cases, is played by those who don't have the extra money to be playing in the first place. The ole saying "Tax on the poor". Just another way for the state to tax us with out calling it a tax. People should buy some dividend stocks instead or make other investments.

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Otis T

3:16 pm on Monday, March 25, 2013

Steven, 150 million upfront huh????? Well the lottery had a 961 million profit last year. PA is considered one of the top lotteries in the nation, so it doesn't make sense to give it away to a company that didn't even have to bid on it!!!! And when is Pa going to abide by what the voters want??? Polls show the voters are against it.......

Robert Applegarth

4:52 pm on Friday, November 9, 2012

Thank you folks. You took the words right out of my mouth. Actually you could see the writing on the wall when the payouts for Power Ball were changed last year. The timing of this really could not have been planned better. The election is over and the next major one won't be until 2014 I believe. Now would be a good time to contact your Commonwealth Senators and Representatives and let them have an ear full of the same BS they are giving the Seniors. A 20 year contract? Performance-based 10 year extensions? What do the Seniors get to replace the funds going to the private contractors? Who will audit the program and the contractor? I smell alot of money going into someone's pocket.

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Bonnie Miller

6:15 pm on Friday, November 9, 2012

Robert Applegarth, Thanks for laying this out so I can understand it. Really good questions that need to be answered.

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Steven Long

6:33 pm on Friday, November 9, 2012

Auditor = AUDITOR GENERAL ... there was an election a week or so ago ... did you see the title on the ballot?

AGAIN ... this is NOT TAKING MONEY FROM ANYONE ... it is SUPPLANTING money! Please re-read ... the commonwealth would make $150,000,000 upfront, THEN, would not have to spend $ on operations and management ... which, we all know, the government cannot handle without loosing money,

Wallst

4:56 pm on Friday, November 9, 2012

Leave it up to our idiotic governor to have another idiotic idea.

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Steven Long

6:35 pm on Friday, November 9, 2012

WHY is this idiotic, and WHY do you call a person an idiot for saving money, and supplanting money for other programs? Your thinking seems backwards. The commonwealth would MAKE money, versus LOOSING money. DUH!

Frank

4:59 pm on Friday, November 9, 2012

Governor Corbett could care less about seniors. This man has to go in the next election.

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Steven Long

6:37 pm on Friday, November 9, 2012

FIRST HAND experience here, Frank? Surely you have nothing to contribute ... other than dispersions? Instead of chumming spew ... how about adding substance to the thread?

Al Stuart

5:06 pm on Friday, November 9, 2012

Back in the early 60's and before that the lottery was run by private individuals, it was called the "Mafia" back then. Seems like the Democrats have their hands in our pockets once again.

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ed r.

6:27 pm on Friday, November 9, 2012

Uhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh, Corbett is a REPUBLICAN.

Bob

5:07 pm on Friday, November 9, 2012

Casinos and horse-racing are privately managed with government oversight. Maybe the State could include sports betting in any bills as well.

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Steven Long

6:39 pm on Friday, November 9, 2012

The Commonwealth makes money off of casinos in Pennsylvania ... they do not run them. The Lottery would be a similar program ... although not exactly the same. In essence, the commonwealth has little involved, yet reaps profit. This is similar to making $ via taxation ... at no cost to anyone, except those who buy the product (lottery tickets).

Gene T. DiPalma

5:08 pm on Friday, November 9, 2012

I'm saying it is right or wrong to privatize the lottery, however if the goal is to increase sales of the tickets to provide additional funding for seniors and the private firm pays the commonwealth a fee up front while banking on their ability to increase sales to obtain the performance bonus this could be a win win situation. Face it who is better at marketing, government or private industry? If the commonwealth screws up the agreement then it is the wrong thing to do.

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Charlie D.

5:18 pm on Friday, November 9, 2012

You people who think the government can do something more efficiently & less costly than private enterprise have no idea.

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patrick

10:51 pm on Saturday, November 10, 2012

Hospitals. The VA is voted the best year after year. Education. State colleges and universities out perform private schools, for price and degree earning ability. Too easy Charlie, maybe why nobobody responded. Remember we are all socialists.

John cope

6:02 pm on Friday, November 9, 2012

Look at it this way. If the government runs it it wouldn't make sense to tax it but if it's in private hands look out for the Taxman!

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Bonnie Miller

6:11 pm on Friday, November 9, 2012

John, Would not have thought of this but I bet you that it is one of the ideas in back of this. Thanks for bringing this up.

Joan Welliver

7:48 pm on Friday, November 9, 2012

Corbett, will be a one term Governor. No one can tell me didn’t know about Sandusky. He was the Attorney General at the time and he never said a word, he’s as guilty as the rest of them, if not more. Then he wants’ to claim Bankruptcy for Harrisburg and when he was told he could not claim Bankruptcy he turned around and gave four of his staffers a $ 10,000.00 raise. He is an arrogant man who should never be given a second term. Hell I’d take Christie over this moron!

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yearoftheSnakE

8:02 pm on Friday, November 9, 2012

This is nothing compared to the mess with Sandusky for Corbett. I know Republicans that don't even support him anymore over this, add in this and what else he tries to do prior to the end of this term- no way is he getting a second term!

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K. McDonald

11:06 pm on Friday, November 9, 2012

There should be a recall because of dereliction of duty as former state attorney, and not reporting the $$$ he got from Sandusky's non-profit. Collusion if Corbett's second name.

Gilbert R Albright Jr

9:16 pm on Friday, November 9, 2012

And I'm sure the winner of the contract will be a regular and large Tom Corbett campaign donor. Notice nothing is said in the story about this being cost saving move.

Another example or Corbett handing out gifts to his political cronies.Next he'll be putting up the Turnpike for private management for another one of his big campaign contributors to snatch up.

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Robert Applegarth

9:55 pm on Friday, November 9, 2012

The Office of the Auditor General is responsible for auditing misuse of tax dollars of the Commonwealth not money generated by private corporations. It seems that once the PA Lottery is turned over to a private corporation, that Office no longer has jurisdiction to perform an audit unless there are signs of fraud. It will also depend upon how the contract for the management of the lottery is written. As far as the $150 million up front payment is concerned, any contractor who has not built in a means to recoup their $150 million investment is not one I would invest one penny with. Yes, the Seniors might at first glance be getting $150 million up front, but, what other money won't they be getting in the future in terms of fees and commissions paid for services rendered? If memory serves me correctly, wasn't it back in 1981/1982 that the Commonwealth withheld over $400 million dollars of lottery proceeds refusing to release the funds for the Seniors? Substance.

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Gary

10:08 pm on Friday, November 9, 2012

The less the state has their hands in the better. Talk about a republican stealing your money? Who approved casinos? The only reason states have lotteries and casinos is a way to tax you with out sending you a bill in the mail. If you don't play the lottery you have nothing to worry about. Your just wasting your money anyway.

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Robert Applegarth

10:41 pm on Friday, November 9, 2012

If you play to help the Seniors, that's one thing. If you play to make a killing, chances are you are only killing you wallet. I think the casinos were approved under Governor Rendell: DEMOCRAT.

James Smith

10:37 pm on Friday, November 9, 2012

Is there a better way for Gov. CornButt and his Rethuglicans to start their re-election campaign 2014? Hand all the public lottery funds to a private company, so the private company can donate all of the money collected back to the Govs re-election fund. Keep It Simple, Stupid.

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K. McDonald

11:04 pm on Friday, November 9, 2012

Typical Corbett. I don't remember him campaigning on privatizing the PA Lottery.
And announcing it on a Friday of Veterans Day -- so it sneaks out from under the eye of the public.
How do we stop this from happening!?

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Robert Applegarth

11:35 pm on Friday, November 9, 2012

K. McDonald; Call your State Rep and Senator in Harrisburg and tell them how you feel. It might work...

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K. McDonald

9:57 am on Saturday, November 10, 2012

Call and write all the time...

Anthony Wayne

11:06 pm on Friday, November 9, 2012

Less government is always best, however, even a cursory search of Gov Corbett reveals much that is not good. Like the $465,000. in campaign contributions over four years from "the second mile foundation" to then Attorney General Corbett. I would suspect there is something fishy with this lottery deal simply based on track record. More often than not politicians are self serving, the people will get screwed again, and the perp will walk.

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Gary

11:17 pm on Friday, November 9, 2012

That is what I meant. The democrats will do anything to take your money. Casinos etc. Why are people so concerned about privatizing the lottery? Remember "REAL PEOPLE" your neighbor, brother, father's, mother's, work for all of the business' that everyone thinks are evil empires there to take your money. Last time I checked the one "business" i pay money to that I am typically disgusted with what I get in return is our government. Business and competition is good. Think about this....(and I use the US mail) but how bad would the US mail be if UPS and FedEx didn't exist? FedEx and UPS force the postal service to innovate and compete with timely service. The lottery will be stronger and more efficiently run.

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George Keiper

12:10 am on Saturday, November 10, 2012

How exactly will the lottery be more efficient?Will the blowers in the ball machine be more powerful?Will there be a new kind of sticky stuff on the scratch offs?The question that needs to be asked is,if they are willing to come up with $150,000,000,how much do they stand to make,and why should the state do without those funds.Why should a private entity be running a state lottery?Who would they be accountable too.Real people,your neighbor,father,brother,mother are cops,firefighters,teachers,EMT's,librarians,Marines,soldiers...you know...government workers.

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Gary

10:38 pm on Saturday, November 10, 2012

Well maybe it is possible that the balls will spin faster George. If that is what you would like, but most likely I was being a little more sensible and being under the impression that this isn't the first lottery or only lottery this company has ever dealt with so therefore a system is already in place. Meaning less overhead to get the job done. Just like when one company buys another, you merge certain departments and eliminate others.

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patrick

10:59 pm on Saturday, November 10, 2012

Gary, your not a military man. The VA does a great job. The last business that I dealt with that sucked was comcast.

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George Keiper

11:11 pm on Saturday, November 10, 2012

I'm being totally sensible.While a quick infusion of $150,000,000 sounds great in the short term.,how many more hundreds of millions will be extracted over the life of the contract that would other wise go to the people of Pennsylvania?You can't compare Pennsylvania to just another business doing business and mergers,it's not.It's a government,answerable to its citizens and it can be voted out every election.Who is this company answerable to?And this company gets to be unaccountable for at least twenty years,up to thirty.This is just a stupid crony capital move,and probably criminal too.

Arkansas Dave

1:28 am on Saturday, November 10, 2012

Not surprised. I'm sure these people will be in the news in a year or two for embezzlement.

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Ike

4:42 am on Saturday, November 10, 2012

So someone tell me , does the state get and give out the same money or more money cause of this?????

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.

7:36 am on Saturday, November 10, 2012

It appears that Corbett's goal is to sell off every profitable state entity to his friends in the private sector. First he gave away our land to the gas drillers cheaper than any other state in the union (yes, even Texas has gas drilling taxes) then he tried to give away the state stores (but was rebuffed by members of his own party) and now is trying to give away the lottery system. This guy may be the most corrupt shill I have ever seen in PA. Based on what happened on Tuesday, I doubt he'll be re-elected but I honestly don't think he cares. He's already been well taken care of and will end up with a seven figure job on the board of a gas company when he is booted from office. Hopefully he won't be able to completely sell out the state before then.

I also hope the new Democratic AG goes after Corbett for his role in the Sandusky cover up at PSU. Maybe then we can impeach this rotten SOB!

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Nadia

7:25 pm on Sunday, November 11, 2012

yes, Corbett applied the same greedy logic by looking the other way with the first Sandusky victim...to have done the honorable thing would have lost him his wealthy friends and campaign dollars. IMPEACH CORBETT NOW !

George Jones III

9:54 am on Saturday, November 10, 2012

Watch the ads the lottery contributes $980,000,000 million, they say almost a billion, to senior services, transportation, medicines etc. I have looked at the state budget. It is a true fact. The governor wants a $150,000,000 upfront. WOW somebody should make a lot of money. I do not know any lottery employee today. At one time it was a haven for patronage, but I understand the employees are now required to work pretty hard. I'm waiting for the state to put the election bureaus in a private contractors hands. Then they could really control things.

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William DeAngelis

9:55 am on Saturday, November 10, 2012

How did the governor determine the "right price" for the private lottery manager to pay the Commonwealth and still have the manager get a return on their investment? Would there be a guarantee that the citizens of PA would get more funding on an ever continuing basis or at least as well as if lottery management had been retained by the state ?

Is the only reason for making such an almost irreversible agreement because there an assumption that no government agency can be smart enough compared to private corporation. Does that mean that an elected governor and governing body are always inefficient and ineffective compared to a private company, say like Enron, Bear-Stearns, or Edsel Motors? Should the management of the Defense Department go out for private bid?

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K. McDonald

10:00 am on Saturday, November 10, 2012

I agree -- let's stop it before it can happen!!!

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David Curran

11:43 am on Saturday, November 10, 2012

I can honestly say I do not like the state awarding, what is essentially a monopoly (lottery business), for such a long contract. Something smells about this.

Susan

12:41 pm on Saturday, November 10, 2012

This is an excellent start. Stephen Long, you make some excellent points (and I must say, rationally spoken arguments). There is much to be gained (and saved by taxpayers) by privatizing the lottery. Oversight will be important and that is where and what the State's role should be, not managing the day-to-day operations. I can only imagine the tentacles of the bureaucracy that currently does so and it would be interesting to see an organizational chart on "Dept. of Lottery" The considerable upfront payment that prospective contractors bidding on this work ensures that the winner is committed to the longterm health and prosperity of the program and the intended recipients of that help. (Again, see State oversight). Having said that, I do not play the lottery regularly and don't like gambling in general. When I look at the lottery lines, I see people, the majority of them with limited means, throwing away their money, hoping for that once in a million lucky hit. Sadly, they are likely the same ones that threw away their vote with equal gusto, lured by the promise that a bigger government will someday benefit them. If they are HOPING for a lucky hit, they will be disappointed.

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Ike

1:59 pm on Saturday, November 10, 2012

The ones who spend the most on the lottery are the ones who have the least.
i allways thought gambling was a sin , but now the stae has the lottery and casinos.
Well i guess it a way for the state to get some of the money back that they give out..but it aint right. BAN THE LOTTERY, along with dick, Head to Las Vegas, for your gambling.

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LovinLife

8:24 am on Sunday, November 11, 2012

Ok, so this is news, but breaking news? Really?

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K. McDonald

5:04 pm on Sunday, November 11, 2012

Yes. It's news. And there's a reason why Corbett put it out on Friday of a long weekend. You simply need to pay attention and realize when you're (and the state) are about to be fleeced. The PA Lottery is a huge asset to the seniors in PA and it's essential that there is no corruption in the system -- yet whomever gets this contract is pretty free of accountability. This is public $$$, not Corbett's to punt to a private buddy.

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Robert Applegarth

8:38 pm on Sunday, November 11, 2012

Once Corbett punts the lottery to a private firm, is it still really "...public $$$..."? I think not. The last I heard, a private firm is not "...public $$$...". The lottery in Pennsylvania actually dates back to Benny (Franklin) and Georgie (Washington). They both had specific goals to meet for their lotteries and once met, the lottery was ended. The goal of the current lottery system is fantastic; funds to assist senior citizens. What are the goals and controls once the lottery is in private hands? It seems that Susan and Stephen Long might be the forerunners for the award of the contract of the so-called bidding process. Keep in mind that for specific professional services, it is not always mandated that true bidding process is necessary.

Nadia

7:22 pm on Sunday, November 11, 2012

our State is in the hands of a teabag party republican (corbett)...this is what republicans generally do...they take a big profit (or bonus) for themselves...if there's anything left...then it might get into the hands of folks who need funding/programs.

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Richard Weisgrau

11:36 pm on Sunday, November 11, 2012

Making a fair judgment about the lottery deal isn't possible because of the lack of details. We now know that the State will receive $150,000,000 up front and will maintain "control" of the lottery (whatever that means). What we do not know is what the private managers will get in return. Keep in mind that those managers will pay $150,000,000 up front for a 20 year deal. There has to be a silver lining for them somehow 'cause no good business person is sinking that kind of money upfront into a deal without having a big expectation of payoff over the long run. The only way for citizens to be able to make an comparison of the gain/loss possibilities is to know what the State nets from the lottery each year and what it will net each year once such a deal is made. I notice that that information has not been provided. Why is that? Surely the Gov has done that analysis, or has he?

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Richard Weisgrau

11:46 pm on Sunday, November 11, 2012

Just found some details here:
http://www.sacbee.com/2012/11/09/4973734/pennsylvania-determines-key-terms.html

Not the $150,000,000 is not a payment. It is collateral to back up the projected revenues over 20 years. What kind of collateral? Who know, but I'd be shocked if it was a cash escrow. So That $150,000, 000 million in revenue that some are touting as a reason to do the deal is not revenue at all. The State cannot spend collateral, and who knowns what the value of that collateral will be 20 years from now when the contract is reassessed? It pays to dig into the details before making judgments.

Bradford J. Crompton

2:32 pm on Wednesday, November 14, 2012

You can bet your bottom dollar that Tom Corbett will get a piece of the action in some way, shape or form and his pockets will be handsomely lined. Most likely a hand picked private contractor who will grease their palms monthly.

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Hobo Tom

6:58 pm on Wednesday, November 14, 2012

I remember when Gov Rendell was going to privatize the PA Turnpike to a company from Spain.

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Robert Applegarth

9:15 pm on Wednesday, November 14, 2012

I remember alot of things too, but most have nothing to do with the Turnpike or the lottery situation. What is your point?

EARL NELSON

7:30 pm on Wednesday, November 14, 2012

Did you all forget this is about the LOTTERY? LOL

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John McCriminal Jr

3:42 pm on Thursday, November 15, 2012

Why not let McGrath Homes manage it? That way seniors can pay a bunch of money for promises and get nothing

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K. McDonald

4:18 pm on Thursday, November 15, 2012

So we know that $150million is a joke in terms of amount per annual Lottery sales ('11-'12 = $3.5billion).
What % does the private company get on the projected annual $4.5BILLION gross Lottery sales.
Do the elderly -- and the rest of PA citizens realize that this is a recipe for disaster?

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Robert Applegarth

7:37 pm on Thursday, November 15, 2012

I sure do. When I look at the number of winners per game, it becomes very clear that there is a ton of money not being distributed by the state ( Commonwealth). I agree with you, too many PA citizens don't know and probably could care less. As much as I support our troops fighting overseas (it is very hard to remember where), the wrong war is being waged. The PEOPLE must realize that our government is out of control and there is no grass roots organization strong enough to do anything about it. We are the product of our misguided judgement. Where are the true leaders when we need them most?

Mary B

10:11 pm on Thursday, November 15, 2012

Not off hand, but I like what I hear coming from you.

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Richard Weisgrau

10:15 pm on Thursday, November 15, 2012

I would suggest you read my blog post and then write to your state representatives, as I did. The silent majority gets what it asks for – Nothing.

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Robert Applegarth

10:28 pm on Thursday, November 15, 2012

Thank you. If we all write, I think calls are just lip-service, and from some of the local people who work for my legislator and their "...who gives a sh$$ attitude...", maybe a letter to their Harrisburg office might be worthwhile. If you get sh$$ from the locals, it appears to be a fete de compli. It is worth a try. Go for it!!!

Mary B

10:19 pm on Thursday, November 15, 2012

Richard, I do just as you suggest regularly.

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Robert Applegarth

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Radtiag, what does your comment have to do with the lottery?

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Hobo Tom

5:07 pm on Monday, March 25, 2013

Well back in November I asked if anyone remembered how Rendell wanted to privatise the turnpike. And some wanted to know what does this have to do with the lottery? Now we have Corbett wanting to privatise the lottery. Just follow the money.

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Hobo Tom

5:22 pm on Monday, March 25, 2013

Oh, in case anyone forgot, Rendell was going to outsource the turnpike to a Spanish company. And Corbett to outsource the lottery to an English company. Not that I have anything against the Spanish or English, I'd rather we keep things here in America.

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